Comments on: No More Horizon Gallons at Whole Foods http://growersandgrocers.net/2006/05/23/no_more_horizon_gallons_at_whole_foods/ From farm to table, and all the stops along the way. Thu, 20 Nov 2008 11:37:07 +0000 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.0.4 by: Derrick Schneider http://growersandgrocers.net/2006/05/23/no_more_horizon_gallons_at_whole_foods/#comment-156 Wed, 24 May 2006 10:41:38 +0000 http://growersandgrocers.net/2006/05/23/no_more_horizon_gallons_at_whole_foods/#comment-156 ExtraMSG,<br /> <br /> Actually, I disagree with Whole Foods' stance against foie gras and live seafood, so I don't view their decisions as progress at all.<br /> <br /> But it seems to me that if you're going to portray yourself as a goodie-two-shoes grocery store, you shouldn't be wishy-washy about it. You either have principles that you follow, or you don't. If Whole Foods wants to play the "animal welfare" card, they shouldn't be hypocrites about it. Get rid of factory-farmed meat, dairy, and eggs, "organic" label or no. <br /> <br /> As for Farmer John and CSAs, I'm sure you know that industrial agribusiness isn't sustainable. It relies on serious environmental costs that get brushed under the carpet or into the stream. CSA's may not be viable on a large scale, but agribusiness isn't viable in the long term. Industrial organics may be progress in one sense, but not in the larger picture.<br /> <br /> I've heard good things about New Seasons. Never been to one, but I hope to next time I'm in Portland. ExtraMSG,

Actually, I disagree with Whole Foods’ stance against foie gras and live seafood, so I don’t view their decisions as progress at all.

But it seems to me that if you’re going to portray yourself as a goodie-two-shoes grocery store, you shouldn’t be wishy-washy about it. You either have principles that you follow, or you don’t. If Whole Foods wants to play the “animal welfare” card, they shouldn’t be hypocrites about it. Get rid of factory-farmed meat, dairy, and eggs, “organic” label or no.

As for Farmer John and CSAs, I’m sure you know that industrial agribusiness isn’t sustainable. It relies on serious environmental costs that get brushed under the carpet or into the stream. CSA’s may not be viable on a large scale, but agribusiness isn’t viable in the long term. Industrial organics may be progress in one sense, but not in the larger picture.

I’ve heard good things about New Seasons. Never been to one, but I hope to next time I’m in Portland.

]]> by: ExtraMSG http://growersandgrocers.net/2006/05/23/no_more_horizon_gallons_at_whole_foods/#comment-155 Wed, 24 May 2006 10:29:59 +0000 http://growersandgrocers.net/2006/05/23/no_more_horizon_gallons_at_whole_foods/#comment-155 This is exactly the type of thing that makes me scoff whenever a leftist accuses someone on the right of being absolutist. You guys let your idealism get in the way of what should be seen as progress from your perspective. Same with the Wal-Mart going organic issue. I think you guys think that somehow everyone in the world is going to be fed by 10 acre farms owned by Farmer John and that we'll all just get our food from CSAs.<br /> <br /> <blockquote>Anyone spot a smaller, younger chain doing Whole Foods better than Whole Foods?</blockquote><br /> <br /> Yeah, New Seasons in Portland, OR.<br /> <br /> <br /> <br /> This is exactly the type of thing that makes me scoff whenever a leftist accuses someone on the right of being absolutist. You guys let your idealism get in the way of what should be seen as progress from your perspective. Same with the Wal-Mart going organic issue. I think you guys think that somehow everyone in the world is going to be fed by 10 acre farms owned by Farmer John and that we’ll all just get our food from CSAs.

Anyone spot a smaller, younger chain doing Whole Foods better than Whole Foods?

Yeah, New Seasons in Portland, OR.

]]> by: Jack http://growersandgrocers.net/2006/05/23/no_more_horizon_gallons_at_whole_foods/#comment-154 Tue, 23 May 2006 23:29:16 +0000 http://growersandgrocers.net/2006/05/23/no_more_horizon_gallons_at_whole_foods/#comment-154 I'm not surprised. It seems that Whole Foods is suddenly turning into the Whole365 store. Everywhere you look now you see their store brand. Eggs (from Texas!?) get the premium shelf space in the egg section, etc., etc.<br /> <br /> Whole Foods seems more interested in being like Safeway nowadays.<br /> <br /> Anyone spot a smaller, younger chain doing Whole Foods better than Whole Foods? I’m not surprised. It seems that Whole Foods is suddenly turning into the Whole365 store. Everywhere you look now you see their store brand. Eggs (from Texas!?) get the premium shelf space in the egg section, etc., etc.

Whole Foods seems more interested in being like Safeway nowadays.

Anyone spot a smaller, younger chain doing Whole Foods better than Whole Foods?

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